Talk:TFNR - A box full of nothing

Now, let's try to reverse the evolution of the organization, the form of the Elementary Field. Let's try to reach nothingness, starting from a cubic meter of space in our current Universe. To simplify, let's try to focus on a cubic meter of the interstellar space in our galaxy, were the ordinary matter content is limited to a few thousand particles (for the most part, protons, electrons and neutrinos).

If we were extraordinary beings with infinite knowledge and power, we could:

• use an hypothetical super pump to extract from the cube all the ordinary matter structures (those particles),
• put, around the selected cubic meter, a perfect shield to prevent ordinary matter (gas molecules, atoms, particles, cosmic radiation, neutrinos, etc.) to get into,
• put around an ultra perfect shield to prevent that radiation (e.m. waves) of all length can cross that selects volume of space,

Ok. Good. In that cubic meter, we have created a void without "ordinary" matter and "ordinary" radiation (e.m. waves).

But it is not enough. There is still so much in that volume. We have so much work to do to reach the "hypothetical" condition of nothingness. We cannot call this condition as "state of nothingness", because it is not a state, it is not stable, even not partially stable. We have to say that is an "hypothetical" condition because it cannot really be reached, because it would take an infinite force to force the Field to the condition of nothingness. So, it is impossible to create nothingness, even in an infinitely small point in space for a reasonable amount of time (a time lightly longer that the Planck time).This impossibility, due to the need on an infinite force/energy, is the root of the Principle of Uncertainty ( ΔE x Δt ≥ ℏ / 2 ).

Let's try to extract, from that cube, two strange stuffs: dark matter and dark energy. Are there things that can be extracted from a volume of space, or better of volume of space-time? What does it means "to extract" with respect with those stuffs? As ordinary matter particles and e.m radiation waves (in this model of description of Reality we call them "Structures of Information", pattern of organization of the distributions of the Elementary Events, the tiny fluctuations of the Elementary Field under the incessant pressure of the Fundamental Force, the two aspects of the Primary Source of Reality), also dark matter and dark energy are Structures of Information, or better together they represent two complementary parts of the same kind of (dark) structures in the cosmos.

Here we are talking about diffused, large scale stuffs, normally extended more than a cubic meter.

If less than a meter, let's suppose that the dark structure is all internal the cube. This is an unrealistic scenario, because, in this physical model, any Structure of Information in the Field has no limits in space, but those imposed by indetermination, in the sense that, going far away from the centre of the vortex shaped structures, the correlations among the distributions of the fundamental fluctuations of the Field become so week that they are surmounted by the chaotic dynamics of the Field that we can describe with the Uncertainty Principle. But, let's assume however that the hypnotized dark structure is totally internal to our cubic meter. To make that structure to disappear, we have to exert a force, to make an action, a complex action, to make that Structure of Information to interact with something that could de organize the Information, the pattern of organization that gives to that structure its form. We have to de-form that dark structure. We could ideally do that this way: forming an anti-structure absolutely identical to that dark structure we want to remove from our cubic meter, than making the two structures (the original and the new built anti-structure) to interact and annihilate each other.

If, as usual, more than a meter, we cannot extract them in a common sense, because those dark stuffs are not inside the cube. The cube is inside the dark stuffs. In a wider sense, the cube is part of the dark stuffs...

Now, we have eliminated ordinary matter, ordinary radiation (e.m. waves), dark matter and dark energy. There is something in?

Unfortunately for our goal of achieving nothingness, yes. And fortunately for our existence, yes. GM...

And again, let's try another step forward.

Now, a great job was done. We were able to eliminate all the things contained, and now our selected cubic meter is really empty. But are we sure that now the cube no longer contains anything? That the inside of the cube is "nothing"? And, what is the true meaning of "nothing" in this physical model. Unfortunately we cannot really say that we have reduced our space cube to nothing. Unfortunately, as quantum physics tells us, our volume of space is still full of energy.

Quantum foam...

and now, that we have eliminated even the Elementary Action, what more?

elementary events... elementary fluctuations... with constant mean distribution. (No PERT, no TRA, no ROT) but still fluctuation, the primay manuifestation of the Source.

How can we achieve nothingness?